Comments on: Change the Right Thing (Part 3) http://bobhamp.com/blog-posts/change-the-right-thing-part-3/ Just another WordPress weblog Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:13:55 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: You’ve heard it said… (part 2) | My Journey with God http://bobhamp.com/blog-posts/change-the-right-thing-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-324 You’ve heard it said… (part 2) | My Journey with God Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:32:01 +0000 http://bobhamp.com/?p=302#comment-324 [...] From BobHamp.com [...] [...] From BobHamp.com [...]

]]> By: Bob Hamp http://bobhamp.com/blog-posts/change-the-right-thing-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-244 Bob Hamp Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:01:30 +0000 http://bobhamp.com/?p=302#comment-244 Thanks Scott, I finally found a place to write my thoughts, I am glad other people like them as well. I appreciate your comments a great deal...rocking is fun, and fun is a fruit of the Spirit. Thanks Scott, I finally found a place to write my thoughts, I am glad other people like them as well. I appreciate your comments a great deal…rocking is fun, and fun is a fruit of the Spirit.

]]> By: Bob Hamp http://bobhamp.com/blog-posts/change-the-right-thing-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-243 Bob Hamp Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:59:09 +0000 http://bobhamp.com/?p=302#comment-243 Anthony, I always love the dialogue, you're right we just need to hang out. I know I always plant myself on the extreme side, but I am convinced that a truly heavenly orientation is culturally relevant in any <em>time</em> or <em>nation</em> because the heavens are the source of our humanity. My perspective (and I think yours too) is that we are frustratingly likely to let the method become the message, and diverge from the ONE thing that makes everything else functional. Jesus was culturally relevant to people of many nations and socioeconomic backgrounds, because of who He was. His strategy flowed out of who He was. At the same time He was oppositional to any cultural expression which inherently diverged from the message. Heaven is among men. WE must change to access this realm. To appeal to the soul in order to reach the spirit may actually detract from the message. Dang, I didn't just reply, I just wrote another post!! Love you AC Bob Anthony, I always love the dialogue, you’re right we just need to hang out. I know I always plant myself on the extreme side, but I am convinced that a truly heavenly orientation is culturally relevant in any time or nation because the heavens are the source of our humanity. My perspective (and I think yours too) is that we are frustratingly likely to let the method become the message, and diverge from the ONE thing that makes everything else functional. Jesus was culturally relevant to people of many nations and socioeconomic backgrounds, because of who He was. His strategy flowed out of who He was. At the same time He was oppositional to any cultural expression which inherently diverged from the message. Heaven is among men. WE must change to access this realm. To appeal to the soul in order to reach the spirit may actually detract from the message. Dang, I didn’t just reply, I just wrote another post!! Love you AC
Bob

]]> By: Scott Pickering http://bobhamp.com/blog-posts/change-the-right-thing-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-242 Scott Pickering Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:18:03 +0000 http://bobhamp.com/?p=302#comment-242 Awesome stuff, Bob! Thanks for posting this and all your great insights! This is becoming a very helpful collection of posts! You rock! Awesome stuff, Bob!
Thanks for posting this and all your great insights! This is becoming a very helpful collection of posts! You rock!

]]> By: Anthony Coppedge http://bobhamp.com/blog-posts/change-the-right-thing-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-241 Anthony Coppedge Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:56:56 +0000 http://bobhamp.com/?p=302#comment-241 Bob, is it either/or? Is it both/and? Admittedly, I feel the church in America has missed the mark in many areas. I'm biased, of course, because I work with churches as my profession. Still, I don't think it's bad to leverage new methodologies that are specific to our culture. In that sense, YES, let's continually change what the local church (little "C") does. More important is to change what the Church (big "C") does. That's your point, I think, and I agree. Bob, is it either/or? Is it both/and?

Admittedly, I feel the church in America has missed the mark in many areas. I’m biased, of course, because I work with churches as my profession. Still, I don’t think it’s bad to leverage new methodologies that are specific to our culture. In that sense, YES, let’s continually change what the local church (little “C”) does.

More important is to change what the Church (big “C”) does. That’s your point, I think, and I agree.

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